Summary
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Arthur Fleck’s true parentage may finally be confirmed in Joker: Folie à DeuxPossibly implicating Thomas Wayne.
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Thomas Wayne, possibly Arthur’s father, could reshape Batman and Joker’s origin story and add complexities to their rivalry.
- Joker: Folie à Deux Will likely include more fact than fantasy, as Arthur Fleck will be on trial and receiving therapy.
By addressing one of the biggest mysteries of his 2019 predecessor, Joker: Folie à Deux could irredeemably change Bruce Wayne’s own origin story as Batman in Todd Phillips’ Darkness Joker Franchise. Despite taking place outside the mainstream DC Universe, 2019 Joker introduced a younger Bruce Wayne, long before his parents’ double murder and his evolution into the Caped Crusader. Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck and the young Bruce Wayne, played by Dante Pereira-Olson, may have a much deeper and more harrowing connection.
Joaquin Phoenix’s Arthur Fleck was introduced in 2019 Joker As a failing party clown and aspiring stand-up comedianAlthough his descent into darkness has turned him into the face of a violent revolution in Gotham City. The rampage, including a brutal murder on live television, culminated in Fleck being institutionalized at Arkham Asylum, which is where Joker: Folie à Deux Will find him in October. While much of Folie à Deux is expected to focus on Fleck’s budding romance with Lady Gaga’s Harley Quinn, some of Joker’s Burning questions can still be clarified.
Joker failed to finally answer whether Thomas Wayne was the father of Arthur
one of Joker’s Most interesting side-stories focused on Brett Cullen’s Thomas Wayne, Bruce Wayne’s billionaire father who was running for the position of Mayor of Gotham City. Arthur Fleck’s mother, Penny, once worked for Thomas Wayne, and Arthur eventually finds a damning letter that claims the elder Wayne is his biological father. Questions have been raised around this claim following the revelation of Penny Fleck’s serious mental health issues and delusions, however It has never been officially confirmed or denied whether Thomas Wayne actually is Arthur’s father.
Thomas Wayne potentially rewriting how the Joker’s own father would be a monumental change from Bruce Wayne and the Joker’s backstory and history in DC Comics. The suggestion that Todd Phillips may have formed a familial bond between the Joker and Batman would add further complexities to their rivalry.But could provide a clear reasoning and explanation for their age-old feud. While 2019s Joker Did not give an answer, however, the upcoming Joker: Folie à Deux Can finally clarify the matter.
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Arthur’s story will be in sharper focus in Joker 2
Some of the magic of 2019 Joker was in the mysterious nature of the narrative, as Audiences never really knew whether what they were watching was real or not. This is never more evident than in the development of Arthur Fleck’s romance with Zazie Beetz’s Sophie Dumond, which grew throughout the movie before it was revealed to be completely fabricated and entirely in Arthur’s mind. This was incredibly subversive, and is something that could be repeated in Joker: Folie à Deux’s Musical numbers, but the sequel may actually reveal more of the truth.
Trailers for Joker: Folie à Deux have revealed that Arthur Fleck will be on trial in the sequel, which suggests that some real facts will be revealed. On top of that, Arthur will also attend therapy sessions in Arkham, which should help to better distinguish truth from fantasy, and perhaps forgo the idea of Arthur being an unreliable narrator, as he was in Joker. This means that Joker: Folie à Deux may be primed to finally address certain mysterious aspects of Arthur Fleck’s past.
Joker may finally confirm the truth about Arthur’s past
The question of Arthur Fleck’s true parentage hung over these Joker franchise for the past five years, but we may be very close to an explanation now. The fact that Joker: Folie à Deux Could potentially include more fact than fantasy means the real identity of Arthur’s mother and, more importantly, father, may actually be confirmed. It would still come as a huge shock if Thomas Wayne was cast as Arthur’s father, especially since it would impact the origin story of the young Bruce Wayne as Batman.But it would also be a monumental and exciting development.
Joker: Folie à Deux is the sequel to Todd Phillips’ critically acclaimed comic thriller Joker. Reprising his Academy Award-winning performance as failed comedian Arthur Fleck, Joaquin Phoenix revisits the iconic DC character alongside Lady Gaga, who makes her debut as Joker’s lover Harley Quinn in the DC Universe’s standalone continuity.
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Todd Phillips
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October 4, 2024
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Warner Bros. Pictures
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Joaquin Phoenix, Lady Gaga, Brendan Gleeson, Catherine Keener, Zazie Beetz, Steve Coogan, Harry Lawtey, Leigh Gill, Jacob Lofland, Sharon Washington, Troy Fromin, Bill Smitrovich, John Lacy, Ken Leung.
- prequel(s)
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Joker
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